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Canine Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia (AIHA & IMHA) - Vaccine reaction - frightened....
| Hi all, I am very concerned, I took our 16 month old Husky Hurley in for his Rabies/distemper/Parvo vaccine on Friday. Saturday he looked like he possibly found a bees nest, his face and nose were all swollen and hot to the touch. I gave him benedryl and kept a close eye on him. Yesterday he developed bloody mucousy stools, I have not seen any more since late yesterday afternoon. I was unsure if it was a reaction to the shots, the benedryl, or bee stings. This morning I called the Vet, they said as long as it stopped, don't worry about it... but then I researched further and found the facial swelling was probably not bee stings, but a reaction to the vaccine. I just talked to our Vet again, he said that would probably have happened the same day, not a day later. After losing Wolfie to AIHA last year, I am panicked. Anyone have any similar reactions to the vaccines a day or two later? My thoughts and prayers are still with every one of you fighting this evil disease - I often tell people I would not wish it on my worst enemy. Thanks in advance, Julie |
| Julie IL |
| Julie, I had similar problems with Tasha and Anya when they received a vaccination to prevent Lyme Disease with their other yearly booster shots. They are both Siberian Huskys. Tasha immediately had her face swell up and Anya the next day could not walk or even get up. Tasha I rushed back to the vet immediately and she was given a benedryl injection and was better a few hours later. Anya, I rushed to the vet and she was also given the same injection. Neither of the dogs had any reactions later. I also never had the vet give them that preventative again. Both of these injections were given to them over 4 years ago and Tasha only became sick in March of this year with IMHA. Anya is now 13.5 years old and seems perfectly healthy. I hope Hurley continues to get better. Steve |
| Steve VA |
| i hope Hurley recovers fully. i personally dont vaccinate my dog at all, and don't plan on it ever again. |
| josh california |
| Thank you Steve and Josh, After seeing what this has done to Hurley, the only vaccine he will ever get again is Rabies, and only because it is required by law. I don't think I will do it yearly either. I do need to be careful with him because he is a husky and tends to kill lots of small animals.... he also is a bit mouthy with people - not actual biting, but guiding their hands with his mouth (am hoping he grows out of that soon). I just hope nothing has harmed him and he will be ok from this incident. Thanks again, Julie |
| Julie IL |
| Julie, I have also gone to Rabies shots as required by law only. There is a bad problem in our area with rabies and don't want to have to fight that either. Best of luck with Hurley. Steve |
| Steve VA |
| if you get your vet to write a detailed letter linking the vaccines with causing potential damage or harm during recovery, some cities will honor that. |
| josh california |
| I have titered Chance's antibodies (on the advice of his breeder), using Cornell U., since 1998. He received his first and second puppy series and only the routine 3 year rabies since then. This is in line with the recommendations by Dr. Dodds. You can read them here: http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/DODDS-CHG-VACC-PROTOCOLS.HTM I did some serious research on the rabies vac this spring. In NYS, the laws are in place to protect people, not dogs. In our area, rabies is active. Each state and each locality will have different approaches to rabies vaccinations. In my state and locality, dogs that are not currently vaccinated for rabies may not be "at large" in the community. That simply means that the dog may not move around the community. My vet has only been allowed to get a few waivers for dogs that were dying of cancer. In addition, the rules regarding contact with a wild animal and dog bites (or "perceived" bites) are very harsh. The dog will be removed from you depending on the local authority's interpretation of that law. The vet is not able to intervene. If it is known contact with a wild animal, the dog is kept in quarantine for up to 6 months to determine exposure to rabies. But any time during that period the dog may be killed to study the brain, again at the interpretation of the local authority. If there is a bite, the law is more severe. The dog is immediately removed and may be destroyed to examine the brain at the determination of the authority. NYS law specifically mentions that waivers are not recognized and neither are titers. You may obtain a waiver in NYS but as you can see, they also do not recognize them for any animal at large. Someone I asked for advice about this also mentioned that pet owners may have serious problems traveling across state lines with an dog not currently vaccinated for rabies. She travels with her dog and found it very problematic not to have a current rabies booster. I discussed this with all of my vets and my specialist at length before we decided to have Chance on a low dose of either prednisone or atopica when administering his rabies booster. He had his booster and had no negative effects from it. He has only improved health wise exponentially this summer. What really was the crucial factor was the fact that I had spent a year bringing Chance back to good health and with something as simple as a "perceived" bite the authorities could take him away from me and destroy him without any input from me or my vet. Chance would never bite anyone, but he is a big black dog and people can act very odd around dogs. It could easily happen that someone would become afraid of him and say he bit them. A week after Chance had his shot, there was a story in the paper about a local family that was possibly exposed to rabies through the family dog tangling with a wild animal. The dog was removed and destroyed and the family was treated for rabies exposure. This is certainly my decision and not advice to anyone. Each owner needs to review all aspects carefully before making their own decision. Your local rules are the best place to start. Patrice |
| Patrice NYS |
This thread was discussed between 04/08/2008 and 06/08/2008
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