Canine Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia (AIHA & IMHA) - I can't do this anymore

I found this site the first of August. The love of my life, Jack, my Golden Retriever, the purest soul known to man, a living Saint, My Forever Dog, the totally absolute love of my life, got sick and I took him to the vet on a Wednesday and he passed that following Sunday. Blame his breeders, blame the vaccinations, blame the food I fed him, blame me, whatever. This site makes me crazy! We have to STOP whatever it is that is causing our most beloved companions we treasure sometimes more than our own lives, that get sick and cause us untold amounts of money because we love them so damn much that we would tear out our own hearts to save them. There are survivors, yes, but they take a toll and they are far and few between and they probably will financially break their owners. The wonder of our beloved pets is that they gave us so much more than anyone we've ever known in our lives did......they loved us unconditionally....never asked for an explanation, just adored us with their wonderful trustful eyes....a pure soul. I read daily on this site the toll and expense of pet owners who would do ANYTHING, absolutely anything to save their most loved companion, for nought.......there is no cause , there is not a cure...there is only a hope which takes a toll on the dog. Are we making our dogs suffer because we do? Are we spending small fortunes to quantify our quilt to "save" our dogs, only to put them through the most horrific side effects know to man"? Let me ask you this, would you put your Mother or Father through what you put your beloved pet through? Is it for love of us or love of them? Is there something is "Us humans" that makes us go the distance to the detriemnt of our beloved pets? Are we forcing them to suffer so we can feel better "knowing that we did all we could to save them"? Ban me from this site because I will say what I feel, sorry if I offend anyone but I tell the truth. I know the truth because my beloved is dead. HOWEVER, ask me about Foxy...............LOL, a rescue. She is a damn trip.....

mary wright Gainesville

Hi Mary, My son in law was diagnosed with lung cancer 3 years ago---he was 32 years old. My daughter (his wife) was 8 months pregnant with there first child when his cancer was discovered. Pauls lung cancer is not cureable---they don't know the cause---and most people with this disease do not survive. He has gone through chemo and radiation twice. The side effects were absolutely horrible and it took its toll on his body. However, I know if you asked him if he was grateful for the past three years, and if he would go through it again in order to survive, he would give you an unqualified "yes"! The fact of the matter is, he has incureable lung cancer, and one day it will become active again, and he will have to undergo treatment again. It has been very hard for him and especially hard for those of us who love him---but he deserves a chance to overcome this dreaded disease. I believe our standard poodle Mercedes, who was only 16 months old when she got IMHA,, deserves the same chance. Yes the drugs were hard on her, but I do not believe she suffered any pain, during her treatment. She is a survivor and if I had it to do over again, I would not do anything differently. She is a happy healthy dog at the moment, but like Pauls cancer, the IMHA could return. Should that happen we will take it one day at a time and make the best decisions we can for her, when and "if" it happens. I don't think we tried to help Paul or Mercedes, so we could feel better "knowing that we did all we could to save them",---I believe we did it with a heart filled with love and compassion, for two beings who deserved a fighting chance at life. I hope that in time your heart will heal, and you will feel better about the decisions you made for your precious Jack. Respectfully, Maureen and Mercedes

Maureen BC Canada

Dear Mary, I can certainly understand your anger at this disease. As the 'mum' of a survivor, I can honestly say that I have no regrets in choosing to try to save Millie's life. At all times during her fight with IMHA, Millie showed me her desire to live. 20 months later, and I watch her enjoying life, and I know I made the right choice to help her fight this disorder. To her, any memories of this experience would be long forgotten. I understand the costs are prohibitive in treating this disease, and if an owner was going to be under financial stress to treat their dog, I would understand their decision not to continue treatment. This is a personal decision for the owner, and dependant on individual financial circumstances. I firmly believe dogs with IMHA are not suffering, they are just tired, and for a while have to deal with the side effects of the drugs until they can be weaned off them.... A small price to pay for a precious life in my opinion. Life is precious, and Millie's fight with IMHA has changed our life forever. I continue to support Morris Animal Foundation in their research in the hope for better treatment and eventually a cure. Mary, Millie's tail always wagged, even at her lowest point with IMHA, we fought and beat this disease, and I hope our success gives hope to others. Hugs to you and Foxy, Sam and Millie.

Samantha Geelong Australia

Mary, I can understand your anger at the disease since we all feel that but SOMETHING is being done about AIHA/IMHA a lot of somethings through studies sponsored by the Meisha's Hope AIHA/IMHA Fund #338 at Morris Animal Foundation. Now that the MH Challenge is over you can go to this site: http://www.morrisanimalfoundation.org/meisha and donate to the fund and EVERY dollar you give will go directly to sponsoring studies on Canine AIHA/IMHA. And yes, I have had relatives with cancer who have gone through more then any dog I have ever seen go through with AIHA/IMHA. I had an auunt who had cancer and had her leg REMOVED at the hip. Next she went through numerous surgeries, radiation, and chemo. She lost all her hair and had to learn to walk all over again with the help of an artifical leg. Then the cancer spread to her lungs and she had numerous surgeries. This was all HER choice because the will to live is so strong. I have lived with AIHA/IMHA for nearly 19 years now since my Meisha was diagnosed in Jan 1992. This was before the internet was in our homes and I struggled with the disease with Meisha for years before I met someone else whose dog had the disease, but I would do it again, in a minute if I had the chance with Meisha. At 6 years into her illness I established the MH Web site and in that time I have heard from THOUSANDS of people whose dog have the disaese, next came the MH Fund at MAF where we are making progress in finding answers to the disease. We are seeing a lot more suviors now then we did when I started doing this years and years ago.

Joanne MN

Mary, I hear your hurt, anger, frustration and heartbreak - I think all of us here know those feelings all too well. I am so sorry you lost Jack to this dreadful disease! I have lost two of my dogs to AIHA within 20 months of each other... I understand the heartbreak! After some time of healing I have come to a feeling peace about this disease! My dogs were both seniors, my golden Aiyana was 12 1/2 - already past life expectancy for a large golden. My husky mix Wolfie was 15 1/2 again past life expectancy. I was blessed with long, healthy, happy lives with them...if any disease was to get them, I am glad it was something like this - they suffered no pain, just weakness. It was our choice at their advanced ages to not do anything invasive on them - we treated with different drugs, and prayed for the best. Did their quality of life suffer - yes it did, but we had to try to save them. When I saw the drugs not helping, when I saw them being unable to do the things they loved to do, when I saw the light leave their eyes, I knew it was time to let them go. Years ago I had a yellow lab, she was my life - she was my first - just mine dog. I got Gwen shortly after I bought my first home - it was just the two of us for a long time. When Gwen got congestive heart failure my Vet said she needed a heart transplant. My response..."great, where do we go, when do we do it", at that time there was no such thing available for dogs, my Vet told me so and my heart sank. I would have done anything to save that dog, her zest for life was unreal. As sick as she could get with the CHF, as soon as she was drained she was happy, energetic, and you could in no way tell she was sick. Gwen fought that disease for 18 months, she required draining more and more frequently, but she was happy. One morning she went into distress - horrible distress. She died in my arms only to come back and look at me with that what is wrong with you look. We rushed her into the Vet, I was ready to let her go then, I never wanted to see that kind of suffering in her eyes. My hubby - I had since married, made the decision to have her drained one more time. Four days later at the first signs of her struggling for breath - I let her go. Yes AIHA can be a very expensive disease to fight, we need to choose our battles wisely. In the end it is the cues we get from our beloved companions that lets us know how hard, and how long to fight. blessings, Julie

Julie IL

Not sure whether I want to comment on this or not. Part of it disgusts me...the rest I understand some. Being one who has seen BOTH sides of this battle....having one that died within a month of being dianosed (Sadie (love you hun)) and one who beat the disease (Tessy) I CAN SAY WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that I don't regret fighting this one bit! I'm pretty sure they put humans through FAR FAR more than dogs. Last I checked euthanasia for humans is illegal....unless I'm missing something here. Not like we can put a human down because they are suffering or broke a leg, or got anemia! My furkids depend on me to make the right decisions for them. I'd never put them through extended periods of suffering or pain....HOWEVER, I'm sure there were times that Tessy had likely felt pain for several hours until painkillers kicked in but I don't think that would warrant "Ending the suffering". Financially....That's a personal decision EACH of us has to make OURSELVES! I'm willing to give up more than most to save my furkids. If I had to choose between treatment for a dog OR having enough money to do "fun things" I'm sure we can all guess what I'd choose. I'm eating daily! It may not be T-bone steaks or fancy foods but I get by....and that's my choice. IF I EVER HAD TO PUT A DOG DOWN BECAUSE I NEEDED TO SAVE MONEY FOR STUPID THINGS (cigs, bingo, coffee, whatever) THEN YOU MIGHT AS WELL PUT ME DOWN!!!!!! Anyhow, I'm upset now so I'll hold my tongue and leave this discussion as is. Johnny and (the well worth the fight) Tessy

Johnny

Hello, My pomeranian is one month shy of his 1 year diagnosis anniversary. He is happy, playful and gorgeous. When I presented him to the vet 12 months ago, he was on deaths door. He weighed on 3 lbs. and was so weak he could barely raise his little head. He was only 1 year old, not fitting any profile connected to the awful disease. Yet, I could not deny him a chance to live. Yes, it was expensive. Yes, it was slow. Yes, it required dedication on my part. Timing of meds is crucial. And yes, it was emotional. My gut hurt for months on end. But this little guy hung on. I hate the disease trust me, but I would have hated not trying to save him especially looking at him now. He did suffer, but now he's fine and I'm sure has no recollection of what he went through. Dogs go forward, they don't look back. We must always try to help. It's what's in our hearts that matter. Best wishes to you Mary. I hope you can find some peace in the fact you were doing what you did out of love for your sweet, Jack. Trust me, he sensed it. Lisa and Indy (the healthy little black fluffy pom)

Lisa

My dog, Buster became ill with IMHA in March of this year. I couldn't have happened at a worse time. I had two children getting married this summer. One of those weddings, my daughters, was in another state. I had to deal with wedding costs, wedding stress, travel costs, vet bills, medicines for Buster, the fear of losing him at any moment. I love this dog almost as much as my own children. I would do anything for any of them, and I did. Was it worth it? You bet it was. Buster is alive and thriving now. Do I worry that IMHA could come back? You bet I do, but I have more time with him and he is happy and healthy now. I may have to pay for this, in dollar amounts, for a long time, but it was most definitely worth it, and if IMHA rears its ugly head again, I'll do it again. Ronda and Buster

Ronda Illinois

Hi Mary, I understand how you feel having had two beloved dogs undergo this terrible disease.I lost poor George 4 years ago he was a most loved Cocker Spaniel. Two years ago (nearly!) Joey our Border Collie was diagnosed with the same.I am now a panicky mum - he's due a blood test again tomorrow.We've pushed him to his limit in order to get him to lose the weight he gained from the Steroids then when he began to lose weight consistantly he jumped a ditch and sprained his "wrist joint" I can't believe how much weight he put on in the two weeks he was on a restricted exercise plan.To cut a long story short I wouldn't trade a minute now wondering why, how or whatever. I am trying to take each moment as it comes and am thankful for the love I've received from both. Our love and best wishes to you, Corrie and Joey. xxxxx

corrie dagenham essex

Mary, I am not sure where you were going with a lot of that. I want to say that I am sorry for your loss and I completely understand the sadness and as you say "the purest soul known to man". I lost Macy in January of this year. This past Friday I was on a plane listening to my ipod and heard a song that reminded me of her. It took every ounce of toughness in my body to stop from crying 9 months later. I think perhaps you may be just hurt. I don't think we are selfish for "trying to save our dogs for our own benefit". Macy would have done anything in the world for me so why shouldn't I have done the same? As a special dog owner you know the bond I am speaking of. It is really unexplainable to someone that doesn't have that bond with a "pet". They are more than pets...they are family. So, the 12k I spent on tryng to save her was the best 12k I've ever spent in my life. Not for me, for her b/c she deserved every opportunity to enjoy life. I am sure she would have loved to live more with her sister and my son. She was only 4. These are just my thoughts... -Darren

Darren CA

Each of us has to do what we feel is right in our hearts. If I had let my head rule (and my finances), Chloe would be dead and we would still be crying in my house. So far (on social security no less) I have spent about $18K on Chloe's care. Would I do it again to gain the 4+ months with her? You bet. My four children would never have opted to put her down like 3 vets recommended. I just kept checking the resuscitate box and refusing to terminate care! I kept asking for more transfusions to buy her time (and she had 8 units of packed cells) so we could figure out the best way to beat this disease. Chloe has not appeared to be suffering, just very, very tired and wiped out from the drugs. Her tail never stopped wagging! She is the heart of my family of 4 kids and 3 dogs. I have had to put dogs down when they were ready and asked me to but Chloe is a fierce survivor. I bet she doesn't even remember yesterday as only this moment is important to her. Her life revolves around kisses and hugs and I am raising future men (ages 15 and 16) who think kissing and hugging a dog is the norm. I am about to do a lap spay for her. Is it cheaper to go to the spay and neuter clinic? Sure, but I think she will have less pain if I pay a bit more and she is worth every penny. I think my children are learning how to be kind and passing that gift forward is really important. They are going to be making decisions about my care eventually and I hope they won't put me down because of an auto-immune disease! As it turned out, spending the money on Chloe meant I didn't have the funds for my daughter's first year at college. Guess what? Devine override provided multiple scholarships and essentially a full ride to college.Now if I can just convince her to switch from pre-med to pre-vet... This forum and the wonderful folks here kept us going as did Dr. Dodds. We are stronger for having fought this battle against IMHA. Calcinosis cutis pales by comparison. We have always believed in magic and fairies in my house. No matter what happens with Chloe down the road, we have won and she is a winner-almost 5 months and going strong. I am so sorry about your loss of Jack. Goldens are pure love which is why I am willing to do anything for my Golden girl. Cheri and Chloe

Cheri Maryland

For us it was worth the fight, every last bit of it. I'd do it all over again. For us it was 3 days of fighting, 10K in vet bills, after 8 of the best months of my life with my boy Mikey. Worth the fight. We don't know how old he was, but we do know we forged a very strong bond in the short time we had together. This pretty much puts that bond in a nutshell: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdehaan/4412339820/ - that's how he looked at me until the last time he looked at me. Poor dude. I don't think he suffered much during those short days, but he went downhill incredibly fast and I think that really didn't give us the best odds (I kept reading about the disease those first two days and saw every condition of his on the "poor prognosis" list). He was a bit worse, a bit better, a bit worse, a bit better, then suddenly a lot worse. But we were determined to fight with him until it was clear that light was gone. It was questionable in those last 3 hours. He was fine until those last three hours - he went outside with a tech and had a walk around the block. I should put "fine" in quotes, because he was a shy boy and wouldn't have liked being with strangers much. But from what they kept telling me, he wasn't hurting (and we got him acupuncture sessions, which apparently helped him feel better). But when he started having strokes in his brain and lungs and the clotting wouldn't give out, we knew we might have to make a choice soon. I couldn't make the choice at the beginning of those final few hours - I saw him still in his eyes (see photo above - it was that), and I thought maybe he wanted to fight, maybe he could pull through. I can honestly say I was conflicted at that point, I didn't know, and from that I took that it wasn't time. And a few hours later when he was emitting blood, and he could barely breathe, and his light was gone, we knew it was time. I think you know when they're fighting vs suffering, and I agree suffering isn't fair. He didn't know what was going on. And I can honestly say that was absolutely the worst point of my life, bar none. But I do know for sure it's a personal choice, the worst possible ever personal choice, but one they entrust us with to make being their guardian and their voice. Love you Mikey dude.

Jen San Francisco

I understand. When Bonnie was diagnosed our vet said that with a quick and aggressive treatment course they have seen good results in young healthy dogs like Bonnie After watching Bonnie disintegrate before our eyes and then die in our arms my husband and I said if we ever have another dog with this horrible illness we are putting them to sleep. It was a pretty horrible few WEEKS for both Bonnie and us I know some of you have dogs that do fine with treatment and the dogs are just tired but that is not what we experienced-our dog disintegrated before our eyes and went from a 79 lb healthy dog 7/1 to a FIFTY FIVE lb dead dog 8/4 and that was with getting a normal day's amount of food into her almost every day Our vet was kind to us financially but it still set us back far far more then we had to spend. In the end though it is not the money that caused us to decide to never do this again, it was Bonnie herself Diane

Rottlady NH USA

I can see this getting into quite a heated and personal discussion. I first thought I am not even going there..... but now I just can't help myself. Like so many others I do not have to justify my actions. I have no regrets, I know I did the right thing in my case. Kahlu was 2 1/2 when diagnosed and I really did not have an idea what his chances would be. Because he was young and strong and I knew I could somehow come up with the money, I had to give him that chance to recover. Did he have lousy days where we all wanted to give up? You bet! My husband and I had this discussion many times. He had the position, end it and get a new pup. I just could not do it. Not only because I did not want to let him go, but somehow I just felt he was not done yet with what he needed to do here. I told my husband that he is into restoring cars, I am into restoring my poodle. (The car restoration was more expensive:)) Needless to say I won the argument. After 3 Months Kahlu was almost back to normal, we had a great road trip to Nevada together. A wonderful Summer with lots of swimming together and memories that will stay with me forever. The relapse a year after the initial diagnosis came on hard and brutal. With all the gained knowledge I was prepared to fight it again, Kahlu however was done. After 4 days we could see that he did not have the strength to do it again. I had no hesitation to let him go this time. Of course it was terribly hard, but I knew he had given up. I had to do the best possible for him and letting go was it. We all make mistakes, maybe hang on too long let go too soon, who knows. As long as we are sincere and make an educated decision, I don't think we should blame anybody or ourselves. And I don't think anybody should look back thinking I should have.... we all have to leave here at one point and I wish for all my loved ones and myself that I could leave with the dignity that all of my four legged friends were able to leave. Best wishes, Brigitte & the poodle boys

Brigitte BC Canada

Wow! This is indeed a post that could get "heated and personal" as Brigitte put it. All of us obviously came to this site looking for answers, a "virtual"shoulder to cry on, to share our story etc. What I hear from Mary's post is sadness. It is NEVER easy to lose our beloved companions, regardless of the reason. I have been on this site many years now, since 2002 when my beloved Jacob was stricken by this disease. Through the years I have seen lots and lots of success stories and a lot of sad stories where the pooch wasn't even given a fighting chance...sigh :( In my personal journey with my Sweet Jacob, there was a lot of ups and downs. Yes, I did question if I was doing right by my boy, was it for him or was it for me? He was given very little hope in the beginning. But, having said that, at no point, did my boy make me think he didnt want to fight. Yes, some of the meds are very hard on our dogs. But I certainly wouldnt say "they are the most horrific side effects known to man." My Jacob's most noticable side effect was a huge appetite, thanks to the pred. Any person that met my Jacob could not believe he was battling such a life threatening disease because he certainly didnt look like it. We do not have children so my Jacob was like my child. As far as the money, we made sacrifices. My hubby sold his "hobby" vehicle. Jacob was eating better than us, he got steak while we ate hot dogs. And I would not have had it any other way. We made sacrifices to give our boy every fighting chance. It had nothing to do with making ourselves feel better. Unfortuantely, I have seen people on here that have had to say goodbye because of the money and also because they could not see their dog go through so much. That certainly doesnt make them love their dog any less. Each situation is different. Had Jacob's brother Rocky got the disease instead of Jacob I honestly feel he would have not fought so hard. All dogs are unique in their own way. Some are simply too tired to fight. We all do the best we can. I am sorry for rambling on. This topic is very hard to put into words. But please remember, AIHA can be beat. My Jacob, and so many others, are proof of this. Teresa

Teresa va

Mary, I can understand your frustration with the disease. Everyone is different in how they treat their pets. Most of my friends would NEVER spend the amount of money I have on my dogs and cats, but to me they are my "kids". We adopted only Calypso from the pound and only had her two weeks when she developed IMHA. I do not regret treating her for the disease.....well except for the fact that she has chewed holes in my hot tub, ate my dining room table, chewed my wood floors, etc...LOL. But I think St Francis sent us to the shelter to adopt Calypso because if we had not, most likely she would be dead right now instead of a survivor. Would I treat this diease again, I do not know. I do know that it would depend on the dog, their age, what other issues came along with the IMHA. Now with that said, I am also a Pediatric ICU nurse. We put kids, mothers, and fathers through much more than I have EVER put any of my pets through. I see it every day when I go to work...sometime I think "this poor child has been through so much", but how do you stop trying to save them. I hope you can come to terms with your feelings. I do not visit this site as much as I first did because it makes me so sad, but in reality life is sad when you sit down and really think about it. Wendi

Wendi Ohio

Dear Mary -- I read your posts when you and your dear Jack were battling IMHA, so I have some understanding of what you've been through and how you're feeling. My husband and I lost our dear beagle, Wiley, to IMHA in May 2005 following a week battling IMHA, and I remember how devastating the diagnosis was and how devastating it was to lose her. She was the light and love of our life. We still have not been able to add another dog to our home -- despite intense loneliness -- because she meant so much to us and we still mourn her. I remember how we managed to "gut out" the grief for a while, but at about the month mark, it hit me that her absence from our life was not temporary. We really would not see her or care for her or play with her or cuddle her in this lifetime. I was in terrible despair, and I had many "black," and bleak thoughts. I suspect that you're there right now, and I hope that your memories of Jack, and the love of your new Foxy will help you through. But I hope you don't mind if I offer a question for you to consider. That is, where would humanity be in our ancestors had thrown in the towel at seemingly impossible challenges? Would the explorers have found the New World? Would the Founding Fathers have fought against the British Empire to establish the United States? Would we have developed medical treatments such as penicillin and polio vaccine and developed ways to handle diabetes and fight certain forms of cancer. We have got to try -- locally with our pets, because they deserve a chance to recover -- and globally by working together. Where would we be today without Joanne deciding to take matters into her own hands and establish the Meisha's Hope Fund with Morris Animal Foundation and to develop expertise and professional networks to help others who feel alone as she did in 1992 when her dear Meisha was stricken. I know you loved your Jack and you made the best decisions you could for him with the information you had available and your own gut instincts about what was best for him. You thought of him, even though you may be doubting yourself. Please take care and stay in touch. And please give Foxy a tummy rub from me!

Brenda VA

Your pain is voiced loudly in your e-mail. I'm so sorry you lost Jack. It is a very frustrating disease. There is so much I could say but I guess all I want to say is I didn't try to save my dog for my benefit, I did it for him. He deserved a chance at life. He was only three years old when he was diagnosed and the easiest thing would have been to put him down. Putting "a sleepy" dog down just didn't seem like the right thing to do. It came to a point though when things weren't looking good and a vet told me it was time to put him down, I took him home so the rest of the family could say their last goodbyes before I put him down. It was as if he knew and he made the effort to lay his ball in my lap. He had always loved to play ball and hadn't in many months due to weakness. To me, he was telling me he wasn't ready to give up the fight. If he wasn't ready I wasn't ready. We decided to take it one day at a time. Every day he grew stronger from that point. That was October 2008. He has had several relapses since then, with thankfully bouncing back quickly each time. Today he is strong, and happy. No one seeing him would know how sick he was. We play ball every day and go for walks and he is my best buddy. Do I want him around forever - of course! But I am not that selfish and I do believe he will tell me when he's ready to leave. This disease has taught me to appreciate the days we have with the dogs and people we love. Would I do it again - in a heartbeat! Everyone's situation is different. We can only do the best that we can with what we are given. Chris & Alex

Chris Pa

Dear Mary, I'm so sorry you lost your beloved Jack to this awful illness. The suddenness of it is extremely hard for the mind,emotions and soul to conceive. In our case, our beautiful rescue dog Cody battled this from 2 months old to 2 1/2 yrs. when he was put to sleep when no hope was left. This illness catches everyone off guard, and each case can be very different, so decisions must be made on a daily basis in regards to treatment, non-treatment,etc.... There is no perfect blue-print for any of it, and I'm certain all loving dog owners do the best they can with the knowledge and means they have at the time. At times I was sure Cody was going to beat AIHA, but eventually the medications did too much damage......we never let him "suffer". He knew love from the moment we adopted him, thru his journey, and was surrounded with love in the end...I have no regrets for trying so hard.....again, I'm sorry for your loss......With deep compassion, Tammy

Tammy N.J.

Mary, I understand your pain, anger, confusion on this disease and I agree that it's up to the parents on what they decide to do with their furkid(s). On July 20,2009 my precious Katie JoJo got sick and on her 6th birthday (July 21st) she was diagnosed with AIHA and I made the decision to give her one chance to fight so I spent a ton of money to give her that chance. Well on July 24 2009 she looked me in the eye and told me it was time to let her go so I (sorry typing thru tears) told her how much I love her and that I will miss her so much but I WOULD NOT keep her here with me for me...It's been over a year and I now have her baby brother Harley Lowrider and he does help me alot but I still love and miss Katie JoJo like I did on July 24th 2009... I'm not upset with you at all we all have our own opinions on this disease...My parents love and miss Katie JoJo too... REST IN PEACE SWEET PRECIOUS BABYGIRL & HER DADDY TOO Katie JoJo Sunny Aaron Bogart 7/21/03 to 7/24/09 7/11/67 to 4/4/10

Maria Mt View Missouri

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