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Canine Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia (AIHA & IMHA) - Dr. Dodds Liver Cleansing Diet
| I have some questions for those of you who feed your dogs Dr. Dodds home cooked liver cleansing diet: 1. Is this the site that you got the recipe from: http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/liver_diet.htm 2. She recommends adding an infants multi vitamin to the food. What brands do you use? 3. I'm going to starting giving Duck Pet-Tinic and he presently takes milk thistle as well. Do you add the infant's vitamin to the food AS WELL AS giving a supplement like Pet-Tinic? I presently feed Duck Wellness Sweet Potato and Fish kibble and have been happy with it. It has a minimum 12% fat content. The reason I'm considering switching to "home cooked" is to lower his dietary fat intake with hopes of avoiding more episodes of pancreatitis (if at all possible). I've read that the best preventive measure is a low fat diet. Plus the home cooked diet would support his liver although his liver values are good. 4. Do you have any other thoughts or advice you could give about home cooking versus commercial food? As always, thanks so much to all of you. This forum is definitely a life line for us. Hope you and your doggies are all well! deb and Duck |
| Debbie BC Canada |
| Debbie, Not much time to write. Be careful that you monitor the levels of vit a and d that would be combined by using both products. They are fat soluble vitamins and can build up in the body, which is not safe. Also, excess iron would not be good. Other vitamins like the b's, are water soluble and any excess, in general, is just washed out in the urine. The best way to find out this info is to search on line for an product label, or go to a store and find the products on the shelf. Add up the quantities to see what you get. I have a book on canine nutrition and I can tell you later where you stand according to weight. I used Petinic for quite awhile and it is very good. I now buy all the vitamins for Chance separately so I can control the dosage of each one. Patrice |
| Patrice New York State |
| Patrice, You are right that the doses of vits A and D and the iron levels should be watched. Here are the recommended and combined daily doses of Pet-Tinic and Poly-Vi-Sol liquid infant's vitamins: Vit A - 1500 IU Vit D - 400 IU Vit C - 30 mg Vit B1 - 2.5 mg Vit B2 - 1.6 mg Vit B3 - 14 mg Vit B6 - 1 mg Vit B12 - 2.1 mcg Iron - 12.5 mg Copper - .2 mg Duck weighs 53 pounds (24 kg.) Do you feed Chance the liver cleansing diet? What is the name of the book you have on canine nutrition? You said you buy the vitamins separately - in liquid form? If you could tell me how these numbers look (when you get a chance) I'd very much appreciate it. Thanks Patrice! deb and Duck |
| Debbie BC Canada |
| Deb, The book I have is out of print and older but nevertheless, very good. "Earl Mindell's Nutrition and Health for Dogs." You should be able to find it at a number of places on line for very little, try www.half.com. Duck is 53 lbs, I would say that is a medium sized dog. The breakdown for the b vits runs about 2mg for each one and 2mcg for B12, biotin and folic acid. Vit c is 1000-2000mg. He writes a large caution for supplementing fat soluble vits, do not exceed 50,000IU per day for A. Dogs also have more circulating vit a in their blood than humans do, one more difference between us that alters the nutritional needs. Vit A is listed at 3,750 IU for a med. dog. Vit d is another fat soluble vit. He mentions fish oils, and eggs are good sources. Med dog: 200 IU per day. Vit e, In this category he mentions that dogs susceptible to IMHA can benefit from additional e in the diet. Eggs, green leafy veggies. Med dog 200IU. Iron, sources meats. Med dog 18mg. Copper is found mostly in the liver so an excess can cause liver damage. So be cautious here as we are challenging the liver already with prednisone. Med dog 1mg. I am off to job number one so must stop here. patrice |
| Patrice New York State |
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