Canine Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia (AIHA & IMHA) - Bromelain

Hello to all
sorry it's been so long since posting. I do read here almost daily but life with two Rescue Great Pyrenees has been more than full.

I want to say my heart goes out to You Josh and Sway who are fighting so hard. What a great job. Same to all of you in this battle both present and past.
You are in my thoughts and prayers daily.

I would like to hear another opinion, but I am pretty sure Bromelain has the capacity to increase bleeding time. I believe it has natural antigoaculant properties. I stopped giving Brandy her organic pain meds after her diagnosis because it had Bromelain as an ingredient.

So many times we think we are doing the very best and unknowingly hinder ourselves. Would hate not to share something someone could use after validation.

Best to all
paws up to keep up the great work moms and dads

sharon, angel Brandy and the "new kids"
sharon pa




Wow Sharon you do have your hands full! those are 2 lucky dogs to have you.

What do you mean by this? How is this detrimental to AIHA?
"I am pretty sure Bromelain has the capacity to increase bleeding time"

Before Wylie had her spleen removed I did a search on what you should be taking before surgery and these came up as can cause bleeding, I think thinning the blood Vitamin E, Fish oils and Chondroitin, so is this something then an AIHA dog should not be taking?

Laurie
Laurie CA


Laurie, I cannot come out to say Aiha dogs should not take Bromelain but if I were still in the tx stages I would research it. Brandy also had IMTP which is low platelets therefore more at risk for bleeding complications. (Evan's Syndrome). Sorry to be vague, it is all so complicated trying to juggle all the right things. Maybe Patrice has some knowledge of this?

Best to you and paws up to everyone out there

sharon and angel Brandy
sharon pa


sharon-
thank you for the special mention of sway...
i very much appreciate the warm thoughts, and same back to you and your new pups :)
josh california


Sharon,
Finally getting the 2001 PDR for Nutritional Supplements out to look this up.

"Bromelain is the collective term for enzymes (principally protolytic enzymes) derived from the ripe and unripe fruit, as well as the stems and leaves, of the pineapple plant etc." "..has been used as a folk medicine by the natives of the tropics for centuries. ...used as digestive aid, cleansing agent to improve texture of skin and promote healing of wounds. .. commercially in cosmetics, meat tenderizer..etc."

"Bromelain may have digestant activity and has putative anti-inflammatory, immunomodulatory, antidiarrheal, anticarcinogenic and wound healing actions."

Indications and Usage:
"speeding the healing time of some injuries and surgical wounds, digestive aid, *inhibits platelet aggregration and is helpful in some with thromboses and angina*, positive effects in some respiratory tract diseases, dysmenorrhea and some forms of diarrhea. It has also exhibited some immune-enhancing and anticancer effects."

Contraidications, Precautions, Adverse Reactions:
"avoided by pregnant women, nursing mothers, use for any treatment of any disorder must be medically supervised. *Those on anticoagulants or antithrombotic agents should exercise caution in the use of bromelain. Bromelain may have blood thinning activity in some.*"

*Bromelain may enhance the antithrombotic activity of such drugs as aspirin."

I imagine that this action is probably dose related and any use in dogs should be much closer to the low end for humans: 500 GDU's 1x daily. (Gelatin digestion units)
Patrice
Patrice NYS


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